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Note: this is in no way a attempt at me trying to write a video game. This is an example and its features were designed to specificly implement the concept in question
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- Jared
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3/24/2001 6:13:32 PM:Jared
Haha I dont know is my rat a rat or a
cat? Ethier way it looks like it was
born half retarted.
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3/25/2001 1:27:08 AM:nick
wow, for a demo, for someone who
apparently isnt an expert programmer; u
sure complexified the $hit outta that
would-be simple demo. no offense.
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3/25/2001 1:29:29 AM:nick
and, u should try using some api
instead of going hog-wild, class-crazy.
it'll probably imporve speed and
readability.
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3/25/2001 3:35:04 AM:Jared
For starters, lets break down your
statement. You confuse opinions, with
facts. Is it that classes are complex,
and are hard to read, or is it that
they are hard to read for you? Classes
are just as easy to use as functions to
me, and possibly your fear of overhead
is what brought you to this statement.
"no offense", it is obvious your
comments are geared towards the
negative, you are hypocritical in what
you say. The speed of the application
is timed, and the routines are proven.
If you wish to speed it up, change the
speed variable within the rat class,
and lower the TimeChange. Possibly
before you speak your wisdom, you
should read a little deeper into what
that is, and why it is that way.
Possibly see the other 15 examples
using those same 'hard classes', that
are so complex.
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3/25/2001 3:46:58 AM:Jared Bruni
Second issue, speed. Curently the
applications at a fine frame rate, that
I intended. This is a simple app, and
speed is not really even an issue. (hmm
thats were those opinions come in)
Second if for some strange reason I did
need to worry about speed, I can always
multithread, and optimize the program
loop however for this it is not even a
issue.
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3/26/2001 7:54:44 AM:wazerface
preety good!
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3/27/2001 3:29:45 AM:nick
LOL
in ur profile u claim to have
read lots of books on
programming.
in which of those books
did the author document game
programming the way your source
demonstrated it?
- none?
oh, so
then ur style is completly
unstandardized, and over complex.
go
out buy some books on game programming.
read them.
and the bottom line of
my comments was that the demo is over
complex for what u claim its purpose
is.
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3/27/2001 3:38:30 AM:nick
if u were trying to write a game, and
clearly your not (?), then maybe it
wouldnt be overcomplex. why are u so
defensive? i didnt say it was slow, i
didnt say classes were 'hard', i said u
went overboard; you spoke of speed and
'hardness' not me. maybe u should read
more carefully before commenting, o
great and genious one.
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3/27/2001 12:29:00 PM:Jared
Possibly let me explain further. The
book I read was Real-Time Strategy Game
Programming by Mickey Kawick. Go pick
it up if you have time. Within his
book, he creates a library of classes
to simpfly directX, and then uses those
same classes to be able to build
multiple applications. Thats how mine
work the only difference is I not only
encasulated DirectX, but also Win32. If
you were to pay close attention you
would see that the MasterX.h is very
losely coupled, and is used in multiple
examples. This is just one in a series,
and certinly is not the last.
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3/27/2001 12:30:16 PM:Jared Bruni
I am trying to go through step by step
building up complexity rather then just
dumping off a game with my library
saying hey make a game. I am trying to
provide step by step examples so that
those who wish to build there
knowledge. The purpose is to show an
example of my API, and if you ask me I
think its fairly simple. Whats so
complex ? Its just a cap around
winmain, with all the directX objects
placed into one host object. Then the
rest of the objects, inhert from the
same base screen object, and point to
the main object, so they can function
somewere else on there own, and still
be able to change on the update. The
whole program loop is encasulated and
you dont even have to know how MasterX
works, you just have to know how to use
it.
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3/27/2001 12:31:11 PM:Jared Bruni
Possibly read one the tutorials on how
to use it and check out the other
examples, keyword MasterX SDK , you can
type it in the search. Then once you
have reviewed the material, you will
come to a understanding why it
functions the way it does. Also check
out Mickey Kawick's book its pretty
good =).
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3/27/2001 12:34:31 PM:Jared Bruni
Heres some refrence for
you:
"Defention: an Engine is a
bunch of code that can easily be
modifed to create games. An engine is
difficult to create and takes many
years of expeirence just to finaly make
the engine breaktrhough. A good example
of an engine is the quake engine. THe
engine was made into pouplar first
person shooter Quake. For about
$500,000 to $1,000,000 you can licencse
the game engine. It has alot of tools
which arent great but the engine
is"
- Mickey Kawick
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3/27/2001 12:37:36 PM:Jared Bruni
Some more quotes from the programming
god Mickey "
So C++ is slower then C
right? Well, not really. In some cases;
yes; in some cases, no. Whether or not
you like C++, the world is slowly
migrating toward it, and more then half
of all game programmers use it. Most
all real-time strategy games use it.
Since C++ and C are most always the
same speed, there is no benefit to
using C over C++. You might as well
learn to enjoy its many benefits. My
advice: Get used to it"
-Mickey
Kawick
and on that , I am going to
school
I hope you dont think I took
offense.
=)
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3/27/2001 4:50:11 PM:Jared
"Express not Impress"
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3/27/2001 5:32:47 PM:nukem
1. He was just trying to help out his
friend and decided to post this.
2.
Yeah, the graphics suck, so do mine. We
are programers not graphic artists.
Plus he did it in paint, not the best
program to do graphics in.
3. If you
want to make a good game with good
graphics in a short amount of time use
vb. The hardest part would be making
the graphics.
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4/4/2001 10:52:19 PM:nick
I have over five books on game
programing, tho not the one u
mentioned-i think i heard of it tho, is
that the one that tells you how to make
a line-for-line age of empires? i heard
that book blew.
each book has its
own style- thats a good thing- its a
bad thing, however, to put all ur eggs
in any one basket.
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4/8/2001 7:58:39 PM:Jared Bruni
I think Mickey's book and his engine
were quite well written. Do you happen
to have code thats better? Otherwise I
dont think you really have the right to
say whats good or bad. Its just
nonsense. Possibly speak from knowledge
rather then opinion.
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4/8/2001 8:00:16 PM:Jared Bruni
Send me a link to your code.
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4/8/2001 8:21:31 PM:NineSpine
Jared wrote this for me. While I agree
that he goes a little class-crazy, he
codes very very very well. A LOT better
than you. That's his style and even
though it doesnt make sense to me most
of the time, it does work and it does
work well. He is a GREAT game
programmer and probably one hell of a
lot better than you nick.
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7/23/2001 8:13:06 PM:Rhiannon
That nick character sure seemed pretty
mean.
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11/6/2001 11:36:19 PM:KingZumby
LOL, I like listening to the
arguements. Hey, nothin against you
nick, but Jared is a pretty good
programmer. Complain only when your at
his level. What have you programmed
lately? anything good? I didnt think
so... But tho, i thought it was a good
program, nicely made :)
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