Great,D++ is back! SqueakMac,you da 
man! Keep it up!

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OK, so this doesn't do much yet but 
it's pretty unique and unless someone 
can show me something better then my 
"excellent" vote sticks! Ofcourse it's 
slow, C++ is slower than assembler 
because C++ is written in assembler (?) 
and VB is slower than C++ because it's 
written in C++ and D++ has to be slower 
than VB because it's made in VB... did 
that make any sense? Anyway keep it up 
SqueakMac.

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Yes, a interpreter will of course be 
slower than the language it is designed 
in, but there is so many levels of 
"slower than...". According to your 
logic, "Slower than VB" and "Much 
slower than VB" are the same? 
;)
(Let's see how long this message 
will be here until deleted, because it 
contains criticism it will be 
deleted?)

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Though Simon Price DOES have a 
point.
Assembler -> C++ -> Visual 
Basic -> D++ -> File
SO just a 
suggestion SqueakMac, do it in C++ and 
not in VB.  Or even better, do it in 
Assembler.
And Fredrick, by doing it 
in C++ or Assembler will cut down a few 
levels of "slower than"s...

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Hey guys. I told ya all this the first 
time. But noone listened. This project 
has been dead from the beginning.
Do 
it in C++ or Assambler.

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I get fairly good performance out of my 
own Script Engine, so I do not believe 
it is neccessary to do it in C or ASM. 
I haven't benchmarked it but I think it 
would be a couple of 1000x faster than 
this one. I think it it important to 
say that you can make a program go 
*really* slow no matter what language 
you are using, but if you optimize it 
the choice of language does not matter 
that much. ;)

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Its to weak.  The first one was fair 
because we thought it would improve.  
Just do it in c++.

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It's getting better Squeak.
And guys 
... don't expect him to write this 
program in ASM or C++. That get's 
rather friggin' tricky. Especially 
writing windows programs in ASM. VC++ I 
can understand but I don't think he's 
that knowledgable.
After talking to 
him I think he only knows Basic. 
Although, he'll probably become the 
next Linus Torvald here in the near 
future. So don't diss on him. 
;)
Peace Squeak ...

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you people saying to make it in c/c++ 
or asm, its hard enough making it in 
vb, c/c++ and asm is a great deal 
harder,i'd know
hey squeack, ignore 
those that as just being lazy and 
copying source
-Nova Ice

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LOL@Nova Ice*
Good one. : )

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Hey, why does everyone say remake D++ 
in C or ASM? Last time I checked this 
was 
"http://www.planetsourcecode.com/vb"
Anyway, nice project Squeak.  I don't 
know where they got the "slow" D++ 
stuff from.  Ran fine on my 
machine.
Oh yeah... check out some 
encryption stuff on PSC.  I bet you 
could encrypt the syntax of your 
scripts pretty easily to make it look 
like your own save format.  Would be 
cool in my opinion.

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If people are truly worried about speed 
then they must have been the old school 
programmers working on 8086 processors 
trying to conserve space and make it 
fast. I can understand efficiency back 
then but efficiency is totally 
different now.
With our fast 
computers its only microseconds less of 
time in VB. So who really cares? Bill 
Clinton called a 1 GHz computer a super 
computer back in '95. Now we can own 1 
GHz computers for a couple paychecks. 
Except for maybe those people with 
P133 and 8 megs of RAM everyone 
shouldn't be picky about microseconds 
of speed.

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As far as you writing an interpreter at 
a young age, I am a little bit 
impressed.
As far as how well it runs 
(not considering your age), and the 
style in which the code is done, I'm 
not impressed.

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Using VB instead of ASM also gives you 
a lot of functionality "for free". Try 
making an interpreter that supports 
forms, controls, objects etc in ASM. 
Yikes! (no wonder M$ needs a lot of 
time to complete VB7 ).

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I'd just like to say one thing and one 
thing only:
SqueakMaac is extremely 
talented.
Ok i lied, i'll some other 
stuff!!!
All you Chaps and 
Chappettes are doing the ASM and C++ 
stuff, good. Keep it to 
yourself.
Kenneth has one heck of a 
point. GO VB AND D++.
look, don't 
diss Squeak, If you wanna submit 
critisism, then submit constructive 
critism.
Thanks.
Hang in there, 
Squeaks!
>Link.
"I'm not a complete 
Freak,
Some parts are missing!!!"

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to all the people who seem to think 
maximum optimisation is not needed 
(in any code) - well that's just down 
right selfish and rather crazy ! who is 
the code for ? you or your users ? if 
it's for your users then OPTIMISE 
OPTIMISE and do MORE optimsising ! they 
WILL appreciate it and NOT everyone is 
able or willing to spend a "couple of 
paychecks" on some do-everything GHz 
computer ! just so they can test some 
vb source code example !  meaning - if 
code is OPTIMISED audience is also 
MAXIMISED meaning YOU get more 
CUSTOMERS and if commercial (or vote 
based) YOU get more MONEY or votes ! 
c'mon now think about it sensibly 
people ! sheeesh ...... 

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as far as can be done in vb - Great 
Code keep up the good work :)

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Hey SqueakMac remember me? Well I am 
sure you do. Wait till you see my 
version of d++ (v2.5). Its like D++ and 
D++ IDE on crack...its MMAADD. I am 
sure you all will love it. Expect it as 
soon as psc will let me upload it. 
Which, by the way, I have tried 4 times.

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Better yet, forget all the people 
saying to optimize! Abandon VB! Screw 
C++! Don't worry about ASM! If you 
REALLY wanna be 1337, write it like a 
TRUE programmer: in straight machine 
language! (end sarcasm here) Nice 
program, but just try not to get too 
boastful about it like you did on JEL.

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Man.. u lot r f**ked.
He has done it 
as an example of what vb can do.. not 
as a program to be marketed. And 
another thing.. its not slow.. its just 
all your computers are crap!!!.. it 
works great on my pc, and runs as fast 
as anything written in C. If u so 
desperatly want it in C, write it 
urself.. and actually help the open 
source world to continue.

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Well I gotta agree do it in c or c++. 
Maybe even assembler. I have written a 
basic scripting engine in c though it 
wasn't to work as a stand alone script 
language. As for optimizing it is true 
you can optimize any code to work 
faster but realisticly the slowest c 
code will beat the fastest vb code any 
day. Personaly I only picked up vb 
because I had to for school and I found 
it instaly easy. If you really want to 
become good at a language don't start 
witht he basic. Try something harder 
like c. When you need a basic language 
then you'll find it to be extremly 
simple. 
So basicly I'd say yeah take 
some time to learn c/c++ (prolly c for 
this because it is faster slightly than 
c++ and I prefer it in general) and try 
writing it in c. If you really want to 
go for it you might be able to 
eventually create your own true 
language. VB is a very limited language 
in a lot of aspects.
And for those who 
think vb can do anything c can do I 
recomend you learn some c.

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I think you can do better

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Good Work Squeak !!! Me too i've 13 
years old and i'll try to beat you :) 
Wait for my next script, you will see :)

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Hey Squeek, I think its good & I'm 
impressed. As for writing it in C++, it 
would be hard. As for writing it in ASM 
(Win32) can anyone do that? Cos if you 
can, I wanta talk to you!

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People still saying do it in C++ or 
ASM?!? I tried to remake this in ASM 
after I downloaded it, my ASM file got 
to be 9583 lines, and it didn't even 
have the compiler part yet! Don't tell 
someone to do something in ASM unless 
it is a very basic program, a keygen, 
or C++ with inline assembly in some 
parts.

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Here is a idea- Program it in VB, then 
decompile it and go through the code BY 
HAND, fixing and optimizing it as you 
go- VB adds ALOT of content to the file 
(Subs,things like that) that are NOT 
EVEN USED IN THE PROGRAME... so go 
through it and take out all the cr@p.

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Ahh Squeak has done very well.
and 
about that slow. it is indeed slow if 
you compare it with C or ASM.
But 
remember this is a interpreter coded by 
a 'kid'.
I'm waiting for 
'BlueLighting', it might be way faster 
:-D.

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D++'s maths parser (if it can be called 
that) is blown out of the sky by 
practically all other VB scripting 
languages I've seen. Apart from that, 
with a little work and conversion to 
C++, it'd be pretty good.

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Great. I Do Coding D++ Beta3 Korean 
Edition. I'm Korean.

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People here, who thinks that VC++ is 
written in ASM ?! VC++ is written in C, 
of course it is used ASM in. How do you 
think that the complete VC++ can be 
written in ASM. It would take ages. And 
even MASM is written in VC++..
You 
did a well coding but if you want a 
real compiler, you should directly 
access  memory (vb cannot do that) and 
have a powerful control of strings 
(C/C++ is best for it) And i think if 
you programme it in C/c++ it will be 
easier for your code handling after a 
moment. Or you can simply programme the 
editor part in VB and the compiler in C 
(i advice.)
See you.. :)

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Well well, quite a living conversation 
going on here. The only thing i want to 
add to this is that this code finally 
has practical use. It's not 'Unfinished 
chatprogram' nr 100 or useless function 
nr 1000 but a real working program. 
Keep it up, SqueakMac, good coding ! U 
know it, Visual B. rules !!

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For all of you who think that vb is 
just a "SLOW" language. HA. VB6 is a 
little slow. But VB.NET is as fast or 
faster then C#

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Not to be the "Odd man out" But it does 
not work on my CPU. Im running WinXP 
home and it compiles but then the D++ 
app that pops up is black. Zip Zero, 
Null, Nothing. But if any one has an 
comments about how to make it work just 
click on my name and E-Mail Me.
EP

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Need a D++ Decompiler :)

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hmmz good job Squeak... its a good eg 
for VB
as for you people that keep 
saying "Do it in c/C++ ASM blah blah 
blah" Lol dont you people know the 
diffrence between ASM and VB? look ill 
show ya
Visual Basic and the key word 
is: VISUAL you all go on like doing D++ 
in VB is easy... its not hard ill admin 
BUT the thing is Visual Basic, ASM and 
C/C++ are all totally diffrent... Vb is 
point and click... how many C++ 
compilers are as easy to use a VB? VC++ 
and Borland are the only things that 
comes close that i can think of at the 
moment... if any of you people that say 
do it in C++ are VC++ coders.. why dont 
you try to make something like this is 
lets say hmm Bloodshed C++ compiler... 
thats just to state the fact that VB 
and C++ are totally diffrent, C++ is on 
a ALOT Higher level the VB... so stop 
givein the kid a hard time because its 
VB not C++
and yeah it runs fine on my 
box, if your crying about speed its 
simple DONT USE IT... use Python or Perl

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